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Matthew Nathan

Soldier and former Governor of Hong Kong

Jan 26, 2025

4:40
Anything else under COVID, Matt or Dave, anything that we did well or what it revealed?
4:46
You just said the operative word, business as usual.
4:49
So when I talked to house staff and other groups and healthcare providers, and they asked me about An old guy like me who remembers when rock candy was just a nickel.
5:01
You know, the changes that have evolved.
5:03
This is a little bit too trite, but it's not untrue.
5:07
One of the greater changes in the way healthcare has evolved, as Barry and Dave have said, is that doctors used to hire business experts to run their offices.
5:17
And now business experts hire doctors to work in theirs.

18 MINS LATER

22:54
That would be my hope, that we don't allow that to happen.
19:56
But you don't seem to like the notion of concierge medicine.
19:59
Well, I don't like the...
20:02
I know people who practice concierge medicine are very, very good, and they use their time that they can save to do pro bono work for the underserved.
20:11
And so I think those are wonderful examples of people who have tried to compartmentalize their practice and leave time to do other things.
20:18
So I don't necessarily vilify the positions involved as much as the system, which has created the need to pay for access.
20:26
When you have a country where you have to pay to be able to get a hold of a physician or a provider to take care of you in a retainer fee, you've got a problem.
20:38
And I'll finish my one sound bite here with one thing.

15 MINS LATER

35:30
Sorry to be passionate, but I am on

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