Nick, let's dive into the hard-hitting questions.

Yeah, let's do it, man.

So we're passing the popcorn.

And, uh, you guys have been making films for, like, 20 years.

Is that true? That is true, yeah.

So- Long time ... after making films for about 20 years, uh, what's it look like now working with your brother on set as opposed to when you started? How does, how does that look? How does...

How's that relationship? This is the only time you'll see us together- [laughs] ...

Yeah, yeah.

Talk about that.

Well, I know, um, that's something that we've been mindful of for, for years now.

We've been doing this for 20 years, more than 20 years, but officially for 20 years, and, uh, we've always pursued the things that God has already blessed.

That's something that, um, we've focused on.

Um, I think it's a Mother Teresa line actually is, like, do, you know, God will show up.

Where God shows up, like, that's, go there.

[laughs] Go find where God's showing up and go there.

Um, you're, you're in it for, you know, under two hours together with other people, and then you can

Like you felt like it was an essential part of the story.

Definitely.

And I think in every movie, it is a part of the story in that it can either enhance or, you know, be flat or whatever.

But for us, that was a huge part of it was it is Babylon, you know, Babylon.

You know, everybody knows what Babylon is supposed to be like.

It's got to be big and epic and it is its own character.

And so I think shooting in India really, really helped to do that.

specific, was there a specific, I don't know, maybe crossroads that y'all got to, whether it was during the writing of the film or actually in the execution where you're like, wow, okay, how do we find our way through this particular maze here thematically?

Matthew, what did you want to bring into his character?

Yeah, I think you touched on it there as an origin story.

The first three chapters of the book of Daniel is what we touch on.

And when we were doing our research and really digging into the it really stood out to us that these were young men.

And that's something that I feel we haven't really depicted or seen much of in, you know, in film or in story.

Even when we do the Sunday school version, it's often, Daniel's always like an old man, you know, it's always how we picture him.

And but in reality, they weren't.

So, Matthew, how is it that you are able to take the Scripture, remain faithful to the Scripture, while injecting your own personal creativity into it without... violating what the scriptures have to say?

Matthew, what did you want to bring into his character?

Yeah, I think you touched on it there as an origin story.

The first three chapters of the book of Daniel is what we touch on.

And when we were doing our research and really digging into the it really stood out to us that these were young men.

And that's something that I feel we haven't really depicted or seen much of in, you know, in film or in story.

Even when we do the Sunday school version, it's often, Daniel's always like an old man, you know, it's always how we picture him.

And but in reality, they weren't.

So, Matthew, how is it that you are able to take the Scripture, remain faithful to the Scripture, while injecting your own personal creativity into it without... violating what the scriptures have to say?

Happily,

believe me.

I love the intro so much.

And yes, we're going to do more stories after this one.

You have to watch and you'll see why.

Good, good.

But yeah, I mean, the art of filmmaking is a challenge, you know, and it's such an epic experience.

Even if I'm looking at my fiery execution in front of me, could I still say yes, Lord, and no to the challenges of the culture? That's, I think, an unbelievably timely message.