Mm-hmm.

And I've lived four years in China, you know.

But now as a non-resident, even the friendliness and the accessibility for non-Chinese residents is just breathtaking.

Mm.

And it's so refreshing to see.

But you can then bring that experience into other markets that aren't as such digitally exposed.

I suppose that's one of the best things that we bring- Mm ... is we can bring you that goodness and experience into less exposed countries.

... mandatory

Mm-hmm.

Then I joined Atos about eight years ago and loved every day since.

So my responsibility as the head of financial services for international markets is trying to bring the fantastic offerings that we have as Atos.

So covering data and AI, sovereign, cloud, cybersecurity, the whole range of managed services that we do for real customers every single day, mission-critical activities.

and try and connect the dots for our customers, which is basically listening.

Listening very, very attentively and understanding those business needs, business problems, regulatory problems, regulatory issues, and challenges that these present for financial service organizations across the globe.

and trying to marry then with the portfolio that we have and services that we provide, and then marrying those with the fantastic teams that we've got across the globe, be it within international markets, but we have to look beyond our borders.

love to get some insights into that nexus between AI and legacy systems and why it is such a big business issue, maybe going into some of the limitations that it offers over for businesses.