Yeah.

And then in 2015, yeah, by 15, I knew it was getting bad.

16, 17, I had to get out, took a leap of faith, quit, started teaching writing to public school students in New York city, sixth and eighth graders on how to use words to express their emotions instead of their fists.

That was, that was interesting.

Yeah.

That's a whole other podcast.

Yes.

That is another, that was a, another fiction or that's