Please, Matt

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the turn in the episode, is that it, one, you guys are conflicted.

Their, their characters are conflicted as to what to do to try to hold this guy back.

But in the first time all we've established is that he cut someone open and then closed them up safely and said, "They'll survive.

I'm doing this." And then when they say th- that it's not, we don't know if it's gonna, we're gonna be able to pull him back, they cut to establish, boy, he's way down the road.

He's taking hearts, and it's a whole nother... [laughs] You know, it's like, okay, they gotta kind of establish the point of no return.

... one or two is what you're saying.