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Sep 7, 2026
Analyst Chat #315: Shadow SaaS, Shadow AI & the Governance Gap
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So when it comes to the telemetry that you are consuming for discovery, what is essential? What is unexpected? What surprised you? What they can take into consideration? How broad is that aspect of discovery to really mostly catch all the fish?
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8:28Matthew GardinerGUEST
Yeah, so there are a lot of places you have to sniff, basically, at the end of the day.
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8:35Matthew GardinerGUEST
So some of the more popular ones that catch a lot of things is in the browser.
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8:40Matthew GardinerGUEST
So to the extent the user is using a SaaS application or an AI application, they're often doing it from the browser.
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8:47Matthew GardinerGUEST
So if you have a browser plugin, which many of these vendors provide, looking at email.
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8:53Matthew GardinerGUEST
So a lot of times when you're registering for a new account, There's an email administration or email happening.
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9:00Matthew GardinerGUEST
So sniffing the email, looking for applications that you didn't know about is a place to go.
mid-year economic outlook with Matthew Gardner
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28:45Matthew GardnerGUEST
And again, my opinion may be slightly different, and that is the fact that any company looking to grow in our region, a couple of things they think about.
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29:04Matthew GardnerGUEST
The second thing is how much do I have to pay people? And the biggest component of salaries is cost of living.
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29:12Matthew GardnerGUEST
So at what point do they say, I've got to pay people how much so they're not living in a shoebox? Well, then Austin, Texas can be more interesting for them.
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34:56Rachel HorganHOST
Is there anything you want to close out with, maybe a prediction for next year or any last closing thoughts for our audience?
