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Matthew Darrow

Matthew Darrow

CEO & Co-Founder of Vivun, an AI-powered sales engineering platform.

Aug 5, 2026

18:45
All of us do.
18:46
Totally.
18:47
Well, and I think what's...
18:48
So, um, uh, uh, I'll give you all the details of how this has morphed over time, because where it is in its current state is very different from where it was 12 months ago and 24 months ago.
18:57
And I think the interesting thing from founders and builders right now is, like, y- your entire playing field keeps shifting because, you know, in the Sa- in the SaaS era, it was relatively straightforward.
19:09
You knew what the incumbents did, you knew what they didn't do, you knew what tools and technology you had available to you, how to create multi-tenant SaaS, how to create mobile applications, how to use a series of APIs and integrations, and then you would go solve a new problem.
19:22
Relatively straightforward, incredibly oversimplifying the fact of how hard it is to build something from scratch.

12 MINS LATER

31:43
Mm-hmm.

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