okay how would you run a premortem today that brings in perspectives across generations racial backgrounds and levels of authority not just the people who approve the investment right so like this inclusive perhaps even bottoms up type involvement like what would that look like for you and your against your risk framework

Yeah, so the risk framework is in the book, the general principle behind a premortem.

And maybe I'll take even one bigger step back.

Part of the book is built around the fact that we run a ton of postmortems.

That is like a word that gets thrown around a lot.

You finish a project, you make a decision, and then you all sit in a room or you all get in a virtual Zoom or Microsoft Teams call and you dissect what happened.

And usually there's a little bit of a negative bent to it.

How do you design those experiences for teams who members may have very different relationships with authority and risk and upward management? And what does that reveal about their readiness to lead, especially through a lot of changes right now that are like AI driven or even more like, even more unapologetically stakeholder board member driven.