Yeah.

of how do I just get a more regular thing in my life for talking about music, not just writing about music.

Because I'm Cultist Creative every Sunday for like eight years.

I've said something about music because I live, breathe, die this stuff constantly.

And so I'm talking to Joseph Moore, the great historian, incredible author and writer and thinker, and we just get into this back and forth on what's a song or songs that best describe the experience of life in America.

And I realized in this back and forth and emails and texts and phone calls that there's something here.

We both had one that we came up with for each other.

That's what gave me goosebumps, right? You love learning something new.

anthem, party rock is in the house tonight, Katy Perry, Train.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

100%.

What I will say about this, though, is that, so we're in that post-Malaise recovery, we just want to have a good time, hence the party rock.

Then you've got some of the random stuff.

I have to say this just to get it off my chest.

Every time I hear Blow the Whistle, or I hear Whistle by Flo Rida, which...

Right.

super bowl halftime show was decent well you know

yeah she did a good job on the suit so i i i would say there's more depth to rihanna than i think you're giving her credit for and stitching together that stuff i think she is a unique voice in that era of dance music and one of the few enduring things from this period Akon deserves lots of shout outs.

He was dominating the world.

Senegalese guy.

Love his crossover story.

Love just where he came from and how dominant he was.

I want to give a shout out on this one.

Ziggs, what do you got?

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So M- Mark explains, and this is, this is just such a fantastic point.

He's been a financials analyst i- since the '90s, and he ran a long-short fund through the GFC.

He got involved in some other funds and stuff in the period both before and after, but he just understands the plumbing of the banking system better than anyone I've ever met, and Net Interest is his substack.

Wonderful, wonderful read.

Absolutely worth checking out.

And talking to Mark about this, the history of this industry, I think, is just really important to understanding what it is and how we got here.

Yeah, I know what you mean.