I kind of came to understand that you had a lot of project management experience before you pulled the trigger and started your own business.

Yeah, that was that was kind of the primary function of my career.

I'll just I'll dive back and try to give you the summarized quick story over the course of.

close to 15 years now so i went to i went to college over in butte montana um started off in civil engineering because i thought that was the route i wanted to go and once i saw organic chem on my future classes and barely passed intro to chem i was like well maybe i don't want to design shit i want to build it instead so i went the business route they had a construction tech program that was It was more so carpentry based at that point, but it was good to just kind of get out in the field and have some classes out building stuff and then do the business classes.

Graduated from there, didn't have a job offer at first.

So I actually went to North Dakota during the big oil boom.

Drove some truck there for like four months till I got my first official job offer from Barnard Construction.

I'm like, no, you're