so humble and he said very humble so not all leaders come from that space what keeps you humble and how has that shown up for you now in You're after your post-military life and your military

life.

Yes.

So thanks for the question.

It's an interesting one from my perspective, because some of us who have served in uniform may have experienced leaders that were less than humble.

I had that experience very early in my career and thought that I do not want to be perceived the way that person is perceived.

Then, as I continued to kind of move through the pyramid, if you will, discovered, especially at the highest levels, that The person to your left or right who didn't get selected for promotion is equally as capable.

What's some thoughts that you have about how do we, you know, even in Tampa, how do we help that from veterans going into these organizations and staying in these organizations?