Did you have a sense of where you were going? Did you have a plan of how you wanted to kind of grow your career up to this point? Walk me through kind of what that development pathway looked like and sort of your certainty at each step.

You know, as most entrepreneurs, I mean, what people see is just you standing on top of a pile of mistakes.

And that's, you know, where I'm at of just trying one thing and not working and then moving to another.

I grew up on a farm, never thought I would end up in an urban setting in a small animal practice only when I grew up with pigs and cows.

And so we kind of twist and turn and find all these different directions.

I've always loved entrepreneurship.

I mean, I...

And then how connected to those people are you? Like, how does that work collaboratively, Matt?