Right.

Um, uh, it's not an organization.

It's really just a bunch of environmentalists and energy experts and climate, uh, experts who look at this, and like Jen was saying, it's like we all love the idea of being able to have control over our own power and having our own municipal energy utility, and that would've been great if we had started with that.

Um, but there's a lot of concerns, and the way the rule is written, um, uh, doesn't really give us an escape hatch.

And, um, the fact that, like Jen said, we don't want to own the poles.

We want to own the power.

And what very few people are unaware of is that Ann Arbor is actually the first city, uh, in Michigan since I think 1915, 1914, uh, that has actually established its own utility company.

The SEU, supporting our work with the SEU is the path to do it