So if somebody asks you what you do, what do you tell them? Is there a short answer to that?

I usually start with the Greiner Buildings, because that is the biggest business that we have.

That's the one that we've been in for the longest, and it's sort of what has, uh, you know, everything has kinda grown from there.

Um, so I am second generation.

My dad started the company, and I remember going to work with him ever since I was very young.

And, uh, then I started making money doing that as young as probably 12, 13 years old, maybe even younger.

And then I s- actually started my own business when I was just a teenager before college.

... what the heck are you thinking? [laughs]

Mm-hmm.

I remember when I was figuring this setup out in our chicken house.

We started the band on my farm, and one day I got all this hardware and [laughs] I was unpackaging it and like, okay, I have this idea of how I want it to work.

Maybe it was, like, an ergonomical thing.

I, it, it might have been someone I saw, like, with a similar setup.

Either way, I wanted a shelf system.

So crash is up high, effect cymbals in the middle, ride and hat low.

[laughs]