Yes.

Which, which I only wanna bring up because, uh, in the first one, uh, uh, they're delighting in being devious and deceitful together.

The last...

And, and Etta puts her arm around Xulan, like as a very...

Like, so there's, there's, there's contact [laughs] in one strip, and then the next they refer to, uh, Hugh, uh, looking as though he had broken his neck straining to see her leave.

So I, I, I, I, I like that MacLe Odyssey is at least acknowledging, "Oh, yeah, sometimes I draw characters that look like they broke their necks." [laughs]

I know you're our guest, and I shouldn't be, you know.

You know, yeah.

Is it just gentle? Yeah,

I mean, I've had cool experiences and miserable experiences doing these things, and they are an unfortunate reality of life.

uh you know kind of corporate owned titles you know some and sometimes you got to play ball and and i tried to make it as yes and and inclusive as could be and left a lot of red meat for anybody and sort of like i think the goal is for all of us to tell two issues have two issues of like here's why our books kick ass here's why our characters are the coolest and you know um um go from there.

And you've, you know, you've, there's a there's a bad girl is like sinners in a bar in a bow shop, right? And and, you know, a yeah yeah it's it's a you know tom taylor uh detective 1114 the the second part is like one of my favorite tom taylor issues ever like um um nightwing's whole thing is about being the perennial also ran in bloodhaven and like a guy in bloodhaven is like gotham oh that shit always does row down here fuck you gotham and like it's great.

It's so, uh, uh, you know, it's, uh, um, but no, like I, I just sort of with, with Willow and sort of like her being mayor for the last six months or a year, whatever it's been sort of like, well, that's, that's going to go badly.

You're going to be ready to clear the decks by issue 50 for a new thing.

So like, well, what if it's this and you know, um, um, And it's, you know, and also like, you have like Torrin energy, which is a little bit, I think maybe of the national character, but, you know, she's like, okay, so there's evil plants and they are going to kill everybody by the time the sun comes up.

is he doing okay is he adjusting he's doing

Matt, what got you into Feynman?

Physics and not being particularly learned and wanting to learn all the things I didn't get to learn in school.

And, you know, my first conscious contact with Feynman was him explaining why the Challenger exploded.

um and and it was so crystal clear and simple and visceral the way he did it that i remember thinking even i understand this like sometimes rocket science isn't rocket science right cold things are brittle and they contract hot things expand you know like like it was so my my my first recollection of him was was was that um I guess I think of him as the boy that played bongos and watched the bomb go off and then became a kind of weird scholar and poet.

I don't have the math, but I can grasp the science and I like that he's someone who makes the science so graspable.

And another thing, I enjoy his tone of like, yeah, no, this is nuts.

The big things behave one way and the smaller you go, they behave a different way.

yeah they made us all play the piano which i thought was just general like i already play i play the piano i teach piano but i still thought it was offensive that we weren't allowed to sing

[laughs]

Uh, y- I mean, I, I, I, I believe really deeply that the ...

Like, like, I love that comics are a collaborative medium, and I think that i- it's, it's, it's as collaborative between me and, and, and the artists that I work with, that it is between me and the teams that have come before me.

So just as a, as a reader and fan, sort of taking where Tim has gone and what he has been through and where he's at, and this sort of, like, unspoken thing where he, he's, he's in this serious relationship with Bernard.

Bernard knows he's Robin and isn't telling him and isn't pushing him to tell him, but it's a thing between them.

And he's had the shit beat out of him so much, and it just sort of felt like what Tim ...

What I want to see Tim Drake have and experience, I don't have page real estate for in Batman.

But is there a bigger overarching story in mind at the same time?