Emus are just quiet.

Terry, Terry, you're the newest farmer.

I need you to march the emus towards the guys with the guns.

You.

Thank you.

[laughs] There will be a scene with a dejected and sad fence salesman, with his wife being like, "You have to speak up.

You have to advocate for yourself."

Right?

Yeah.

Oh, that's always the funniest thing, right? As magicians, we try to help each other out, right? So you say, ah, I tried this trick out and it went okay.

Yeah.

And you said, okay, are you using blank method to make the magic happen? Did that method work? Yes.

If the method works, then the reason why it's just okay is performance.

Sure.

So would you mind telling that story?

What about magics? Why, when you say you fell in love with it, what about it spoke to you?

There's a lot of problem solving that goes into doing a magic trick.

And especially when you don't want to pretend to be or come off as a magical person with supernatural abilities, you just simply want to have fun and make impossible events happen on stage.

There's a lot of things you have to figure out.

For example, Like laughter is a reaction to tension, right? And so when you get messed with and realize, oh, they're just joking and you laugh it off, you release tension.

And so when you're a comedian and doing magic, you need tension for the payoff, right? But then there's so many, those moments of tension are guilty pleasure places to make jokes.

So it took me a really long time to balance when I can joke around and when I should let the magic trick actually get performed at its best for maximum tension and like where to joke around on it.

Right.

That was a popular one.

Oh, here's a fun story.

I was actually at David Copperfield in Vegas, has the most crazy collection of magic memorabilia, and it's privately owned.

He only gives private tours once in a while.

So this little warehouse, this hidden warehouse on the outskirts of Vegas.

And I got to take a tour.

It's like a midnight after his shows.

And

Oh,

yes.

And Swiss Vitamins back then were a family-run brand and the whole family were Hawthorne fans.

um so that was quite interesting to be living with the brother who was also a mad hawthorne fan and this kind of kicked it all off because he woke me up on the i i found myself a ticket to the grand final that year through big footy forums and whatnot i paid a little bit um and the north melbourne breakfasts um that morning of the north melbourne breakfast on grand final week Um, he woke me up and goes, mate, get up, put a suit on.

We're going somewhere.

And I had no idea.

I wasn't entrenched into AFL back then.

I've literally made friends doing this podcast just because you're a Swans fan, you're good by me, and then from there it just grows, you know?

Your thoughts on Skattebo as we enter, uh, into the majority of July drafting here, Matt?

I, I'm a big Skattebo guy there.

Uh, when we talk about that ankle injury, his style of play, I'm not worried about his ankle.

He, he's not worried about cutting back.

He's looking to run somebody over.

So, uh, I'm not worried [laughs] about the ankle.

I mean, obviously we've seen people coming back from that injury.

Matt, for the purpose of this conversation, you cannot.

So is there a rookie that other people are higher on that you just kind of don't get it? Who are you lower on in this rookie class?

I mean, in general, it's, it's the running backs.

I mean, outside of Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Price, which by the way I'm probably a little bit lower on Price than most people, I mean, I, I just can't get excited about any of these running backs.

I mean, the landing spots weren't exactly the greatest for them.

I mean, we got, uh, Jonah Coleman.

Love him- But I don't like the fact that he's going to the Denver Broncos.

He's competing there with R.J. Harvey, who's going to be, at worst, the third down back.

I, I, I get it, but are we really selling Christian McCaffrey?

Mm-hmm.

And I was like, "Okay, I'm not going to go early in the draft because he's going to fade." Everyone's going to fade Christian McCaffrey.

He was hurt last year, this, that, whatever.

So like if, if I can draft a little bit later and would that kind of reversal and everything else that could possibly come into it.

I was like, "You know what? I feel pretty good about this." I think that's a good way to start your team off.

And again, it, it's paid off.

Uh, Chan, he's basically been...

Are we buying Aronde Gadsden?