So what, what is your response to what he's been saying?

Well, I, I've never m- met Dr. Meyer before, but I'm...

I, I read The Telegraph article, and I was expecting...

I don't know if he was saddled with the title or if he thinks the title is fair, but when you start off by saying that science is demonstrating that Dawkins and the new atheists are wrong, I, I was expecting ... science and, and new science.

And there's really nothing new in there, just like there's nothing new in, in new atheism.

Uh, which I guess is a, a common criticism.

But for example, the Borde-Guth-Vilenkin model that he cites and that William Lane Craig and others have cited, um, it, it has its issues, but as Sean Carroll pointed out, Sean Cow- Carroll had Alan Guth come in and, and hold up a sign because that model does not suggest that the universe had a beginning.

Would you, would you concur with that?

Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Dillahunty.

Thank you guys so much.

I completely changed the talk that I was going to give.

When Seth asked if I wanted to do this, I said yes because I say yes.

By the way, you guys, if you don't already know, what's that? Okay.

If you guys don't already know, I'm a lazy son of a bitch.

And I show up and talk and Seth does all the work and all the planning for all these and always has been.

And it was monumentally frustrating.