Mm-hmm.

It was like this impromptu meeting, this informal meeting of what you need to do.

That's why the name of the podcast is, But Can You Take a Punch? I was just going to be happy doing what I do, making little snaps with the Facebook.

But the structure and the presentation, I was like, even Stacey was like, but can you take a punch? Like just out the fucking blue.

And it stuck.

Boom.

I was like, it was structured.

I don't