So speaking of those fuel costs and, and some of the, uh, volatility we've seen, how are you advising, uh, your users then to be benchmarking and, and using this fuel information that you're putting out in order to, I guess, protect themselves from being on the wrong side of volatility if they've got a more slowly updating fuel scale, or, uh, to, to potentially, uh, be able to take advantage of, of the volatility in fuel?

Sure.

So I think part of it is just getting information out there, um, and that's part of the reason that we publish the index.

Uh, and, uh, it's...

They have to go upstream a bit to understand the dynamics of what the true cost of their programs are.

And so a lot of times there's an education consideration for their customers, where if you think about the point of fuel surcharge, it was to really neutralize for everybody so that we didn't, or the carriers didn't have to shoulder that, that burden alone.

And there are a number of strategies that were older that don't take advantage of the data that we have.

And, and by the way, is that still the core part of your business?

What is it about well-written that, A, suits you as a jockey or suits your personality, but what is it about her physiologically that really makes you excited about what she can do?

Well, one thing she is, she's just so fast.

She's got an unbelievable turn of foot It doesn't matter over what distance, 12, 14, or a mile.

Like, I believe she could have been in the railway and she would have beat them horses.

Right.

That's how good I think she is.

Oh, man.

But are there moments that you get to take stock of the day or is it just when you come in after a big win like that that you can finally look around and enjoy the atmosphere and enjoy the fact that so many people are on track watching fabulous racing?

What is it about well-ridden that, A, suits you as a jockey or suits your personality, but what is it about her physiologically that really makes you excited about what she can do?

Well, one thing she is, she's just so fast.

She's got an unbelievable turn of foot.

It doesn't matter over what distance, 12, 14, or a mile.

I believe she could have been in the railway and she would have beat them horses.

That's how good I think she is.

Oh, man.

But are there moments that you get to take stock of the day or is it just when you come in after a big win like that that you can finally look around and enjoy the atmosphere and enjoy the fact that so many people are on track watching fabulous racing?

Yeah.

You know, if, if a driver's driven for five years and never gotten a speeding ticket and then gets a speeding ticket, you know, a lot of times I don't, I don't mean to pick on the risk department.

We'll pick on them anyway.

Um, risk is going to immediately call that person and say, why did you, why were you speeding? Right.

You know, not to do that.

They don't often pick up the phone and go, Hey, this is the first speeding ticket you've ever had or you've had in the last five years.

Is there something that was going on that made you not pay attention? Is there something I can help with? And that kind of goes back to that empathetic perspective.

Now, transitioning into tech real quick, because You know, for fleets looking to modernize, which systems or processes should they prioritize to make the biggest impact on the driver when it comes to satisfaction, while also making sure that operations are still performing at a high level?