So the threat was real.

Oh, well, not a threat.

The conversation of potentially talking to Shohei was real.

I took advantage of that moment to just get him to respond, um, which he responded and called me.

That's all I wanted.

We met at a Starbucks, and I just wanted to see what he was doing 'cause if he...

I didn't want him to send a wire transfer for obvious reasons because now everything's out in the open, and I didn't want anyone else to get in more trouble.

So you're seeing him for the first time one-on-one.

Matt says Ryan agreed to help him by accepting payment for Ipe's gambling debts into his Bank of America account, and it was Ryan who first noticed that there was something unexpected about Ipe's wire transfers, and he called Matt.

I was actually sitting in my office, and, uh, I got a phone call, and he said, "Are you sitting down?" And I said, "Yeah." [laughs] And he said, "Well, um, I just received a $500,000 wire." I said, "Okay.

That's- Thank you.

That's great." And he said, uh, "It's Shohei Ohtani is the name on the account," and I just went, "What the fuck?" That was the holy shit moment.

I believe 50% of athletes bet on sports.

I mean, that's truly my opinion.

So the threat was real.

Oh, well, not a threat.