the the game like what you see for football

yeah no it's I mean it just keeps getting bigger and bigger um you know I don't know I look at it now and I just feel like I'm glad I played when I did because it was it was before social media and there was still kind of uh I guess, you know, a lot of things would happen in the team, in the locker room.

There was some privacy.

Yeah, most of it stayed in-house because you are, you're a family.

And I mean, journalism was different back then.

I mean, gosh, I mean, back then it was, you know, there were reporters out there to actually, you know, report on what was going on.

Nowadays, it's like the sports media, it's more people just giving opinions.

How did you then continue to do new things? Because you were still a young man at that time.