But what are some of the things that you've seen, for example, at our state universities here that made you go, you know what, this is really bad and out of control?

Yeah, several things, and we'll kind of get into how Prop 142 maybe addresses some of these, but we've seen everything from doing records requests and finding school districts where we get the actual correspondence from their DEI committees, their diversity, equity, inclusion committees, and they say things like, we want the district to be changing who they allow to hire on to add diversity.

So they're explicitly saying, we don't think that our hiring practices should be based upon merit and ability, but we are fundamentally, as the DEI committee, we are pushing, again, behind closed doors, internally, you're not going to see this in the public messaging, to say, this district's hiring practices need to be based upon race.

They're very explicit about what it is that they're pushing for.

Then more publicly, we had uncovered things like the universities using these diversity statements where they screen out applicants.

So if you're trying to apply to be a staffer or a faculty member, you are told you are only going to get a job if you tell us your view and how you contribute to diversity and inclusiveness.

And we found examples of things like particle physicist research positions, and they were told you're only going to get this job if you tell us how your contributions to DEI advance our commitment to this.

have to go around and embarrass yourself, and that teaches you something? That's just crazy.

The two of us, the audience, does it mean looking for equally qualified black kids? As someone who's written legislation around this, what is DEI?

Yeah, and we've heard DEI, CRT, affirmative action.

I mean, they've moved away from the label in a lot of these cases.

Now it's belonging and engagement.

We did a whole study on DEI.

It was actually a national study.

You can send over the link.

Matt, any thoughts?