What was that turning point for you? And when did the ocean go from a place you paddled to a place you knew you had to protect and engineer solutions for?

Well, it makes me sound like I'm some kind of Oprah Winfrey, like, you know, which is the exact opposite, right, of anyone who's my friends will know that, like, I'm someone who's, how do I put it, like, I'm always doing 10,000 things at once.

I used to be on Singapore Idol.

I'm a singer.

I'm a performer.

I was a TV producer.

I was a social media person.

Could you tell us a little bit more about these inspiring projects and why using nature-based solutions like seaweed and mussel cultivation is so vital for our ecosystems right now?