So Marianne, you're here to tell us you're bringing it back,

right? I wish I could, but no.

I mean, I guess the good news is we aren't killing so many trees that way anymore.

We have other ways today.

But yeah, back in the day, so I was doing a lot of events.

I was traveling.

I was doing probably like 20 trade shows a year, 20, 25 trade shows a year.

What was the moment in your career journey where you said, I need to break out on my own and be an entrepreneur and take these steps to build my own business and to build my own brand and my own legacy?