I'm kind of curious about, like, where was that and when was that? Like, when did yoga become your thing, and what was this reference that you made? Would you say more about that dual life that you were leading?

Yeah, I mean, I really started s- you know, s- experimenting, if you will, uh, with substance use at, from a pretty young age.

But I was always...

I felt like I was always a pretty conscious young person.

Um, you know, I remember when I was a teenager, like, being, you know, c- concerned about the environment and the whales and always, um, kind of appalled at people that would throw litter on the ground and, and things like this.

But I've always marched to the beat of my own drum and, um, I did grow up in a, in a Catholic family.

That's kind of another story that God really graced me with kind of this adopted family that was, um, t- that was Catholic, and so I had that spiritual side of it, too, to kind of keep me grounded.

Mm-hmm.