So how do programs like Demand Response help empower customers to be active participants in their energy usage? Because of course, affordability and finding ways to save customers money has been a big topic this week.

That's a great question.

And I think that Giving everyday people the opportunity to be grid participants is more important than ever, to your point about affordability and engagement.

And engaging consumers isn't just about, let's say, the EV owner.

Most demand flexibility programs can leave behind those who can't or don't want to buy a new device or enroll in an automated program.

And we can't afford to leave these savings untapped and should instead be looking to enable these customers to be energy partners in creating demand flexibility.

And one of the easiest ways to achieve that is to run utility behavioral demand response programs that are auto-enrolled.

How are you all thinking about that as an organization and helping electric companies think about that?