So when you kind of had this shift and you started out doing outreach, what was that like for you? What types of people were you meeting with? What was your experience? How did you find ways to really add value to what they were doing?

Yeah, initially, this was probably mid-COVID, so it was about four years ago.

Initially, everything was virtual.

And I had in mind of like, okay, if I feel stuck or trapped, what are the different ways that I could use my medical expertise? And I actually just started talking or having conversations with various, usually women's healthcare startups.

So a lot of these were probably telemedicine companies.

I was kind of, I think, initially exploring like, well, could telemedicine Doing, you know, like virtual medical care for patients.

Could that be a stepping stone or a bridge to get me to some other step? Like the idea of me doing telemedicine 24-7 sounded like not so fun because I would rather be hands-on.

What would you say would be some tangible steps that someone like that could take to explore this opportunity.