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And then when I was at university, I worked in that library, and so when I graduated, it was, "Well, what are you gonna do?" Uh, probably work in libraries because it's kind of all I know.

And, uh, I finally went to, to library school, um, and it was at l- it was in library school that I learned there was such a thing as corporate libraries.

I had been very familiar with public libraries and with academic libraries.

I didn't know corporations had libraries, and this just really was calling to me.

And so when I, when I got my master's and was job hunting, I went to San Francisco.

The ACIST, uh, meeting was there that year, and they had a job bank, and there was a job open at Bank America, Bank America Corporation, which is not the same thing as today's Bank of America.

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