well it's it's it's like a miracle you know i i i always you know i like to say is it odd or is it god you know and you get that phone call there's just just just no coincidence it can't be you know it can't be and uh um so what was uh what was that early sobriety or early attempt to stay sober what was that like for you

Very difficult.

Again, parties in our house every single day.

The courts put me on antabuse, which I know was an extra incentive because I would already get violently ill.

And the thought that it would be worse than the way my hangovers were, I just...

Anyway, the combination... my surrender on the floor of the Orange County Women's Jail, the intervention by God, beginning to fall in love with Alcoholics Anonymous, I heard I needed to hear a lot of people's disgusting stories.

I needed to hear where the bottle took them.

How's that?