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Mary-Ann Stephenson

Mary-Ann Stephenson

Chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission (from December 2025) with 30+ years in equality and human rights, previously Director of the Women's Budget Group and Fawcett Society.

May 29, 2026

6:15
You have to not assume-
6:15
You don't necessarily have to respect their views, but you have to assume, I think you have to, when you're dealing with the complicated and difficult issues, you have to recognize that people of goodwill can disagree.
6:27
That not everybody who disagrees with you is doing so because they're ignorant, they're ill-informed, they're malign.
6:33
I think that all too often when you get into these really difficult and complicated debates, you can set up a situation which is basically, if you don't absolutely agree with my position over here, that must mean you're either stupid or you're a bad actor, and that's not true.
6:52
It's also tactically really stupid.
6:54
No one is ever persuaded to change their mind by being told that they're stupid.
6:59
I mean all it does is make them angry.

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