Can you tell us how that happened?

Well, yes.

At that time, in the early 1960s, it would've been, um, May 1962, May 1962, um, there were very few people in Lisdoonvarna.

And the, the hotel that, whose family I joined, that stayed open through the whole year.

And so we had a small dribble of people coming in, and me with my newfound knowledgeWould tell them what I, uh, had.

And then I asked them when they were finished their holiday, could you give me a little report on what you saw and you did? And I collected all of these, and that meant the next guest then that came, "What are you looking for?" And they're looking for so and so, and I could say, "Yes, if you go down here and go right and turn left, you'll find it."

when he came first?

I think he came on his own in the beginning, and, uh, he had a very rusty bicycle.