So what happened just after that? It must have been completely overwhelming to come back into the world.

Just after that, I went home, spent time with my family, and then I tried to get back in touch with life.

just a few weeks later i was enrolled at hofstra university to continue with my college education which was challenging because here i was you know 37 years old and i always say i was a goldfish in a sea of sharks because i was twice the age of every one of my classmates i didn't have the experience with technology i had not been in a real college classroom on a college campus ever Every class I took, I always chose the seat near the door.

Probably very rarely did I take my jacket off because I said, how am I going to survive this? How am I going to survive being in this environment? But then it got to the point where, wait a minute, I survived prison.

I can survive this.

They're college kids, right? It can't be any worse than being around, you know, people were convicted of murder, rape, robbery.

And eventually, you know, the jacket came off and I became much more comfortable.

Tell us about that.

right.

A lot.

And we've learned through empirical studies and through cognitive science interviewing skills that lying to suspects during interrogations does not produce accurate, credible, and valuable information.

They do it anyway.

They do it anyway.

They get away with it.

And quite often when interrogations are recorded from the very first question, right? And we see everything that happens.

Is this a commonplace thing? And how critical is false confession wherein a jury is concerned?