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Marty Dobrow

Oct 2, 2026

37:33
No.
37:35
Is it really like you can say that trace the origin to the United States way before that? This wasn't discovered by Europeans in the 15th and 1600s.
37:44
There were native peoples here for thousands and thousands of years before that.
37:48
That's a narrative that a lot of people conveniently omit.
37:53
But in terms of a continually occupied European settlement, yes, I think St. Augustine, oldest city.
38:00
And The other, the big piece about it, beyond just the authentic European Spanish history, which is on display there a lot, and the schlocky tourist industry history, which is also on display there a lot, there is an incredible story about race in America, which has been a fundamental theme from before the beginning of our country.
38:27
The name itself, St. Augustine, how does it come, where does that come from? Pedro Menendez, who was the person who named St.

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44:14
Did you find that in St. Augustine?

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