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Martin Willis

Sep 28, 2026

TruthSeekahHOST
17:18
But speaking about going from ancient craft to the 40s, 60s, 70s, 90s till today, you know, there's the theory that if it is back engineered technology or just our technology some of the the earlier um footage that we we've seen people say that these ships seem to be a bit clunky like there's an evolution to some of these flying saucers if you will that were kind of maybe wobbling and stuff like that and then now they're more you know as technology progresses these so-called ufos uh progress as well what do you think about that uh is that just our depiction in movies or was this some of the clunky stuff caught on camera what do you think that that theory entails that maybe it was our technology and and and we've been um working on and evolving it over the years
18:11
yeah i don't i don't buy into that theory um but there i understand what you're talking about like the wobbly i've seen you know images and things of that but i don't know how accurate all that is there's there is a one um video that you can watch in there it's a wobbly ufo going over a bunch of buildings in a city and that's that ended up being a hoax yeah which is Which is, I mean, it's really, really good.
18:37
There's some really, really good hoaxes.
18:40
So I don't really know, but I have said many times that it seems like the UFO is a different model as we go along.
18:47
You know, what I saw, I had a sighting I saw was a perfect shape saucer, if you will.
18:51
But, you know, I mean, they seem to evolve.
18:53
There's a lot of orbs people talking about that.

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TruthSeekahHOST
58:58
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are, right? There's races, there's inter-dimensionals, there's, they live on a different planet, there ain't, like, there's so many, but what's the one that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every, you know, explored all of these theories?
TruthSeekahHOST
15:37
And then now they're more, you know, as technology progresses, these so-called UFOs uh progress as well what do you think about that uh is that just our depiction in movies or was this some of the clunky stuff caught on camera what do you think that that theory entails that maybe it was our technology and and and we've been um working on and evolving it over the years
16:00
yeah i don't i don't buy into that theory um but there i understand what you're talking about like the wobbly i've seen you know images and things of that but i don't know how accurate all that is there's there is a one um video that you can watch in there it's a wobbly ufo going over a bunch of buildings in a city and that's that ended up being a hoax yes which is uh which is i mean it's really really good there's some really really good hoaxes and that that so i don't really know but i i have said many times that it seems like the the ufo is a different model as we go along you know what i saw i had a sighting i saw was a perfect shape saucer if you will but You know, I mean, they seem to evolve.
16:43
There's a lot of orbs people talking about that.
16:45
And there's a lot of, you know, the structured crafts, a lot of them today that people see are triangular.
16:51
But getting back to, you know, ancient times, if you look at it logically, you know, we're in this little space of time here.
17:00
And it's a very tiny, tiny space of time as far as where we're at.
17:06
And for another evolved intelligence out there, wherever it's from, the odds of it landing here a million years ago are just as, you know are the same odds if you ask me as they are if they land now so because of how we would line up with an intelligence another intelligence elsewhere could have been established you know millions and millions of years ahead of us and have developed technology enough to travel the stars possibly you know long long time ago and could have visited us and so for the for our civilizations to line up It would be kind of miraculous if you really think about it to be on the same level at the same time.

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TruthSeekahHOST
56:33
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are, right? There's races, there's inter-dimensionals, there's, they live on a different planet, there ain't like, there's so many, but what's the one that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every, you know, explored all of these theories? Well,
51:53
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are right there's races there's interdimensionals there's they live on a different planet there there ain't like there's so many but what what's the one that that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every you know explored all of these theories well
52:20
i i think the i i guess i would have if i had to choose one Um, I would say most likely extraterrestrial, uh, but I, I, you know, there there's, again, there's a lot of questions.
52:37
How did they get here? But there, I also think that we're thinking in human terms and not, you know, there's probably physics that we have not discovered, um, that, uh, uh, much higher intelligence can, actually uh figure these things out that we have no no clue how to do and how to get here by folding over time space or whatever it is they do that they can jump or or whatever but and then i but i i struggle with that too like why would if if there are intelligent species all over the universe, billions and billions of them.
53:15
Why are we being looked at compared to others? And maybe all are being looked at.
53:20
I mean, again, it just opens the door for more and more questions, which I have no answers for any of them, only guesses.
53:30
But a lot of times I do like, I had something pointed out to me the other day from a friend.
53:36
I was on a long conversation with him and I said, you know, we tend to look at these things in our own perspectives, like what would we do? But we shouldn't do that because we have no idea how something evolves and how another intelligence can be and what they could possibly be thinking.

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72:27
And, uh, so what are your thoughts on that and i know there's there's birth pangs there's there's so much to that but what would you say to that
TruthSeekahHOST
51:57
But then at the end of the day, like how much proof does anyone have, you know, of people because we're dealing with so many hoaxers in the midst of it? Well, that not only that, it's
52:07
the UFO phenomenon is so elusive.
52:10
You know, I mean, like we may get data from radar pictures and things like that, but I mean, it's stuff that you can grab and hold in your hands because that's the fact.
52:20
A lot of people have not taken it seriously over the years, but now it more and more people are and i'm pretty optimistic about that this coming week coming up i have uh john ramirez who is a former cia um that is going to talk uh i've listened to an interview with him he's very good should be fascinating to hear his interview um but you know one of the things i've heard him say which is really bizarre and you wouldn't expect them to say this is he actually talks about beings that he's encountered and he also says you know when he'll stop talking about this when our government finally comes out and admits that we are hybrids because he claims that's what we are.
53:08
And so I've been really looking into this guy to make carefully, I challenged him yesterday, basically.
53:14
I said, I really, you know, I know there's no way to document that you actually work for the CIA, but I would like to see your CIA retirees association certificate if I could.
53:27
And he almost canceled on me.

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TruthSeekahHOST
58:37
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are right there's races there's interdimensionals there's they live on a different planet there there ain't like there's so many but what what's the one that that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every you know explored all of these theories well
TruthSeekahHOST
13:47
you know where religion comes into play i mean that's where ancient aliens gets popular because they try to tie it in with religion and try to tie it in with christianity or islam or hinduism and these these modern day craft that we're seeing but speaking about going from ancient craft to the 40s 60s 70s 90s till today you know there's the theory that if it is back engineered technology or just our technology some of the the earlier um footage that we we've seen people say that these ships seem to be a bit clunky like there's an evolution to some of these flying saucers if you will that were kind of maybe wobbling and stuff like that and then now they're more you know as technology progresses these so-called ufos uh progress as well what do you think about that uh is that just our depiction in movies or was this some of the clunky stuff caught on camera what do you think that that theory entails that maybe it was our technology and and and we've been um working on and evolving it over the years
14:54
yeah i don't i don't buy into that theory um but there i understand what you're talking about like the wobbly i've seen you know images and things of that but i don't know how accurate all that is there's there is a one um video that you can watch and there it's a wobbly ufo going over a bunch of buildings in a city and that's that ended up being a hoax yeah which is uh which is i mean it's really really good there's some really really good hoaxes and that that so i don't really know but i i have said many times that it seems like the the ufo is a different model as we go along you know what i saw i had a sighting i saw was a perfect shape saucer if you will but you know i mean they seem to evolve there's a lot of orbs people talking about that and there's a lot of uh you know the structure crafts a lot of them today that people see are triangular But getting back to ancient times, if you look at it logically, we're in this little space of time here, and it's a very tiny, tiny space of time as far as where we're at.
15:59
And for another evolved intelligence out there, wherever it's from, the odds of it landing here a million years ago are just as... you know are the same odds if you ask me as they are if they land now so because of how we would line up with an intelligence another intelligence elsewhere could have been established you know millions and millions of years ahead of us and have developed technology enough to travel the stars possibly you know long long time ago and could have visited us and so for the for our civilizations to line up um it would be kind of miraculous if you really think about it to be on the same level at the same time so i understand that i mean my thoughts are i guess i should say is that we could have been visited you know as long as humans you know were evolving here and you know what we evolved from is still kind of uh interesting if supposedly we've only been around for a few hundred thousand years to me that's that's kind of a big question mark too

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TruthSeekahHOST
54:09
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are, right? There's races, there's interdimensionals, there's, they live on a different planet, there ain't like, there's so many, but what's the one that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every, you know, explored all of these theories? Well,
54:36
I think the, I guess I would have, if I had to choose one, Um, I would say most likely extraterrestrial, uh, but I, I, you know, there there's, again, there's a lot of questions.
54:53
How did they get here? But there, I also think that we're thinking in human terms and not, you know, there's probably physics that we have not discovered, um, that, uh, uh, much higher intelligence can, actually figure these things out that we have no clue how to do and how to get here by folding over time space or whatever it is they do that they can jump or whatever.
55:20
But I struggle with that too.
55:25
If there are intelligent species all over the universe, billions and billions of them.
TruthSeekahHOST
51:53
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are right there's races there's interdimensionals there's they live on a different planet there there ain't like there's so many but what what's the one that that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every you know explored all of these theories well
52:20
i i think the i i guess i would have if i had to choose one Um, I would say most likely extraterrestrial, uh, but I, I, you know, there there's, again, there's a lot of questions.
52:37
How did they get here? But there, I also think that we're thinking in human terms and not, you know, there's probably physics that we have not discovered, um, that, uh, uh, much higher intelligence can, actually uh figure these things out that we have no no clue how to do and how to get here by folding over time space or whatever it is they do that they can jump or or whatever but and then i but i i struggle with that too like why would if if there are intelligent species all over the universe, billions and billions of them.
53:15
Why are we being looked at compared to others? And maybe all are being looked at.
53:20
I mean, again, it just opens the door for more and more questions, which I have no answers for any of them, only guesses.
53:30
But a lot of times I do like, I had something pointed out to me the other day from a friend.
53:36
I was on a long conversation with him and I said, you know, we tend to look at these things in our own perspectives, like what would we do? But we shouldn't do that because we have no idea how something evolves and how another intelligence can be and what they could possibly be thinking.

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TruthSeekahHOST
72:27
And, uh, so what are your thoughts on that and i know there's there's birth pangs there's there's so much to that but what would you say to that
TruthSeekahHOST
16:41
And then now they're more, you know, as technology progresses, these so-called UFOs uh progress as well what do you think about that uh is that just our depiction in movies or was this some of the clunky stuff caught on camera what do you think that that theory entails that maybe it was our technology and and and we've been um working on and evolving it over the years
17:04
yeah i don't i don't buy into that theory um but there i understand what you're talking about like the wobbly i've seen you know images and things of that but i don't know how accurate all that is there's there is a one um video that you can watch and there it's a wobbly ufo going over a bunch of buildings in a city and that's that ended up being a hoax yeah which is uh which is i mean it's really really good there's some really really good hoaxes and that that so i don't really know but i i have said many times that it seems like the the ufo is a different model as we go along you know what i saw i had a sighting i saw was a perfect shape saucer if you will but You know, I mean, they seem to evolve.
17:47
There's a lot of orbs, people talking about that.
17:49
And there's a lot of, you know, the structured crafts, a lot of them today that people see are triangular.
17:55
But getting back to, you know, ancient times, if you look at it logically, you know, we're in this little space of time here.
18:04
And it's a very tiny, tiny space of time as far as where we're at.
18:09
And for another evolved intelligence out there, wherever it's from, the odds of it landing here a million years ago are just as, you know are the same odds if you ask me as they are if they land now so because of how we would line up with an intelligence another intelligence elsewhere could have been established you know millions and millions of years ahead of us and have developed technology enough to travel the stars possibly you know long long time ago and could have visited us and so for the for our civilizations to line up um it would be kind of miraculous if you really think about it to be on the same level at the same time so i understand that i mean my thoughts are i guess i should say is that we could have been visited you know as long as humans you know were evolving here and you know what we evolved from is still kind of uh interesting if supposedly we've only been around for a few hundred thousand years to me that's that's kind of a big question mark too

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TruthSeekahHOST
57:48
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are, right? There's races, there's interdimensionals, there's, they live on a different planet, there ain't, like, there's so many, but what's the one that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every, you know, explored all of these theories? Well,
TruthSeekahHOST
51:53
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are right there's races there's interdimensionals there's they live on a different planet there there ain't like there's so many but what what's the one that that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every you know explored all of these theories well
52:20
i i think the i i guess i would have if i had to choose one Um, I would say most likely extraterrestrial, uh, but I, I, you know, there there's, again, there's a lot of questions.
52:37
How did they get here? But there, I also think that we're thinking in human terms and not, you know, there's probably physics that we have not discovered, um, that, uh, uh, much higher intelligence can, actually uh figure these things out that we have no no clue how to do and how to get here by folding over time space or whatever it is they do that they can jump or or whatever but and then i but i i struggle with that too like why would if if there are intelligent species all over the universe, billions and billions of them.
53:15
Why are we being looked at compared to others? And maybe all are being looked at.
53:20
I mean, again, it just opens the door for more and more questions, which I have no answers for any of them, only guesses.
53:30
But a lot of times I do like, I had something pointed out to me the other day from a friend.
53:36
I was on a long conversation with him and I said, you know, we tend to look at these things in our own perspectives, like what would we do? But we shouldn't do that because we have no idea how something evolves and how another intelligence can be and what they could possibly be thinking.

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TruthSeekahHOST
72:27
And, uh, so what are your thoughts on that and i know there's there's birth pangs there's there's so much to that but what would you say to that
TruthSeekahHOST
80:22
Yeah
80:23
... you know, I can, I can ask you 'cause I think, I think it's similar for you.
80:26
But, you know, I think, uh, when she was talking about the dark entities and, and all that, you know, it's kind of the, the what do we do? You know, from a Christian perspective, right, those are demons, right? And I know there's debates on are they real, are they imagination, what are they? But, you know, it, it's like, so what do we do with the dark entities holistically? Do we just simply rise to a higher vibrational frequency, you know, and ignore them? Or do we attempt to convert them to higher and bring them up to higher vibrations? Or do we, like, destroy them and go full-on warrior mode?

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TruthSeekahHOST
87:56
Yeah.
87:57
You know, but it's like, it's one thing, I have to teach you about it, but it's another thing to demonstrate it with you.
88:03
And, and so you can then demonstrate, man, I can actually shift the environment and emotions in other people as a son of the king, and as a, you know, if you're a female, as a daughter of the king.
88:15
It's the same.
88:16
It's a, it's a position.
TruthSeekahHOST
14:01
But speaking about going from ancient craft to the 40s, 60s, 70s, 90s till today, you know, there's the theory that if it is back engineered technology or just our technology some of the the earlier um footage that we we've seen people say that these ships seem to be a bit clunky like there's an evolution to some of these flying saucers if you will that were kind of maybe wobbling and stuff like that and then now they're more you know as technology progresses these so-called ufos uh progress as well what do you think about that uh is that just our depiction in movies or was this some of the clunky stuff caught on camera what do you think that that theory entails that maybe it was our technology and and and we've been um working on and evolving it over the years
14:54
yeah i don't i don't buy into that theory um but there i understand what you're talking about like the wobbly i've seen you know images and things of that but i don't know how accurate all that is there's there is a one um video that you can watch and there it's a wobbly ufo going over a bunch of buildings in a city and that's that ended up being a hoax yeah which is uh which is i mean it's really really good there's some really really good hoaxes and that that so i don't really know but i i have said many times that it seems like the the ufo is a different model as we go along you know what i saw i had a sighting i saw was a perfect shape saucer if you will but you know i mean they seem to evolve there's a lot of orbs people talking about that and there's a lot of uh you know the structure crafts a lot of them today that people see are triangular But getting back to ancient times, if you look at it logically, we're in this little space of time here.
15:54
And it's a very tiny, tiny space of time as far as where we're at.
15:59
And for another evolved intelligence out there, wherever it's from, the odds of it landing here a million years ago are just as... you know are the same odds if you ask me as they are if they land now so because of how we would line up with an intelligence another intelligence elsewhere could have been established you know millions and millions of years ahead of us and have developed technology enough to travel the stars possibly you know long long time ago and could have visited us and so for the for our civilizations to line up um it would be kind of miraculous if you really think about it to be on the same level at the same time so i understand that i mean my thoughts are i guess i should say is that we could have been visited you know as long as humans you know were evolving here and you know what we evolved from is still kind of uh interesting if supposedly we've only been around for a few hundred thousand years to me that's that's kind of a big question mark too

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TruthSeekahHOST
53:24
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are, right? There's races, there's interdimensionals, there's, they live on a different planet, there ain't, like, there's so many, but what's the one that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every, you know, explored all of these theories? Well,
53:51
I think the, I guess I would have, if I had to choose one, I would say most likely extraterrestrial.
54:03
But I, I, you know, there's, again, there's a lot of questions, how do they get here? But there, I also think that we're thinking in human terms, and not, you know, there's probably physics that we have not discovered, that a much higher intelligence can actually figure these things out that we have no clue how to do and how to get here by folding over time space or whatever it is they do that they can jump or whatever.
54:34
But I struggle with that too.
TruthSeekahHOST
51:53
But is there one theory? Is there one belief of who or what? any of these things are right there's races there's interdimensionals there's they live on a different planet there there ain't like there's so many but what what's the one that that makes the most sense for you as somebody who's talked to probably every you know explored all of these theories well
52:20
i i think the i i guess i would have if i had to choose one Um, I would say most likely extraterrestrial, uh, but I, I, you know, there there's, again, there's a lot of questions.
52:37
How did they get here? But there, I also think that we're thinking in human terms and not, you know, there's probably physics that we have not discovered, um, that, uh, uh, much higher intelligence can, actually uh figure these things out that we have no no clue how to do and how to get here by folding over time space or whatever it is they do that they can jump or or whatever but and then i but i i struggle with that too like why would if if there are intelligent species all over the universe, billions and billions of them.
53:15
Why are we being looked at compared to others? And maybe all are being looked at.
53:20
I mean, again, it just opens the door for more and more questions, which I have no answers for any of them, only guesses.
53:30
But a lot of times I do like, I had something pointed out to me the other day from a friend.
53:36
I was on a long conversation with him and I said, you know, we tend to look at these things in our own perspectives, like what would we do? But we shouldn't do that because we have no idea how something evolves and how another intelligence can be and what they could possibly be thinking.

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TruthSeekahHOST
72:27
And, uh, so what are your thoughts on that and i know there's there's birth pangs there's there's so much to that but what would you say to that
TruthSeekahHOST
14:30
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
14:32
Um, which is, uh, which is...
14:33
I mean, it's really, really good.
14:34
There's some really, really good hoaxes and that, that...
14:37
So I don't really know, but I, I have said many times that it seems like the, the UFO is a different model as we go along.
14:44
You know, what I saw, I had a sighting, I saw it was a perfect shaped saucer, if you will.
14:48
But, you know, I mean, they seem to evolve.

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TruthSeekahHOST
52:13
... you know, explored all, all of these theories?
15:00
There's a lot of that.
15:01
Um, which is, uh, which is-- I mean, it's really, really good.
15:04
There's some really, really good hoaxes and that, that-- So I don't really know, but I, I have said many times that it seems like the, the UFO is a different model as we go along.
15:14
You know, what I saw, I had a sighting, I saw it was a perfect-shaped saucer, if you will.
15:18
But, you know, I mean, they seem to evolve.
15:21
There's a lot of orbs, people talking about that, and there's a lot of, um, you know, the structured crafts, a lot of them today that people see are triangular.
15:29
Um, but getting back to, you know, ancient times, I f- if you look at it logically, you know, we're in this little space of time here, and it's a very tiny, tiny space of time as far as where we're at.

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52:43
... every- s- you know, explored all, all of these theories?

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