Professor, I'm not sure whether you were still directing the Family Defense Clinic or whether that was one of your past roles, but he's spent many years litigating parental rights and family rights cases, so he has a deep understanding of the law in this area, as well as some philosophical perspectives that he's going to share with us now.

Thank you, Gene, and it's a pleasure to be here, a privilege to be here, and I enjoy particularly following Melissa's remarks, which I'll support from a slightly different perspective, which is that the founding principles of the United States from 1789 demand the conclusion that parental rights are fundamental.

They're fundamental to our very existence as a nation because the founding principles really have as their first principles three characteristics that all lead to the same conclusion about parental rights.

The first is that we are a democracy.

and that the people choose the government.

And the government is of the people.

And in such a regime, you must privatize child rearing, value inculcation.

They might be troubled about some of the technicalities of the incorporation doctrine and so on, but I think that they would very much support the ultimate outcome.