Martha, will you tell our listeners where you are in the world and how you ended up in the midwife?

Yeah, so I live in Vermont in the United States and have raised my three children and lived in the same home for many years.

And the vision of midwifery happened as a teenager when I first went into nursing school thinking, do I want to be a midwife? I'm not sure.

I went to Kentucky and got really inspired by that community-based perspective.

program, and always had this sort of birth death theme.

So birth and death.

And then I was the pivot point for me was when I was pregnant, went to this low risk OBGYN practice was full.

quickly.