As a precedent, yeah

... uh, yes, and then, and then reapply it.

We do the same thing with immigration.

We have a rinse and repeat issue with immigration.

Uh, their, uh, uh, TPS is, it, we see the same thing over again.

Asylum, we see the same thing over again.

Uh, uh, um, different cases that we come in with, uh, with, uh, false, um, documentation, we see it.

Continue.

But I want this audience to hear directly from you what happened and what failures to cooperate with ICE have created in states like New York.

York.Well, uh, let's, let's just look at New York as a whole, and I'll get to Oscar, the individual.

Uh, New York right now, and I'm gonna read these so they're-- these are fresh numbers.

Uh, we have sixteen thousand seventy, one thousand... or, or sixteen thousand seventy detainers right now that is issued for the state of New York on individuals that are in this country illegally, that have criminal backgrounds.

That represents fifty-two thousand felony charges.

Uh, and they're refusing to, to hand those individuals over to us.

Um, uh, with this, this individual, Oscar, that, uh, we had been looking for.

Where are we on illegals being deported from the country, uh, going in now to what will be year three? Um, and what are your expectations for next year in terms of the pace of deportations, prioritizing public safety threats, but enforcing the laws as DHS can?

But I want this audience to hear directly from you what happened and what failures to cooperate with ICE have created in states like New York.

Well, uh, let's, uh, let's just look at New York as a whole, and I'll get to Oscar, the individual.

Uh, New York right now, and I'm gonna read these so that these are fresh numbers.

Uh, we have 16,070.

One thousand...

Or, what, 16,070 detainers right now that is issued for the state of New York on individuals that are in this country illegally that have criminal backgrounds.

That represents 52,000 felony charges.

Where are we on illegals being deported from the country, uh, going in now to what will be year three? Um, and what are your expectations for next year in terms of the pace of deportations, prioritizing public safety threats, but enforcing the laws as DHS can?

Oh, boy.

I said, "So you're wanting us to re- to, to, to return this thug, this dangerous criminal, back to the streets?" And he says, "I'm afraid for your safety, for your ICE agents' safety.

There's gonna be mass chaos when you try to leave the hospital with him." And I was like, "Sir, we'll take care of ourselves.

We can flex with HSI.

If you're telling me that you're not gonna allow NYPD, uh, to, to get us to our vehicles, we will get to our vehicles.

I promise you that won't be a problem.

I'm not afraid for our safety.

Of course.

Hm.

We can flex with HSI.

If you're telling me that you're not gonna allow NYPD, uh, to, to get us to our vehicles, we will get to our vehicles.

I promise you, that won't be a problem.

I'm not afraid for our safety.

Um, but I appreciate your, your, your gesture there." And he, and, and so I called the president back and I said, "President, uh, uh, he's wanting us to release the, the prisoner altogether, and, and NYPD's gonna put him, uh, uh, is not gonna take, take him.

They're gonna release him immediately back on bail again, which he's already on probation for." The president's like, "Absolutely not." Um, a-and, and, and then when the guy-- when the mayor went to the-- went and did the, the podium, um, you know, charade and tried to do the press conference and just was throwing ICE under the bus and throwing everybody under the bus, I was sitting there listening to this, and I was going, "Wait, where was this a, a week ago" now it's been a little-- it's been over a week, "when the NYPD officer," by the way, in the Bronx, so the same area, was stabbed seven times by also two individuals from the Dominican Republic, who was also here illegally, who was also-- who also have extensive long criminal backgrounds, who was also released from-- and put on probation back on the streets, and we also had a detainer on, and NY-- a-and the New York City wouldn't, wouldn't authorize it.

Of course.

What's the policy? Will we see body cam or other footage that may be available?

Well, first of all, Shannon, let me back up on this one.

The governor, the mayor, all these career sanctuary politicians, not one of them said anything when their own, the NYPD officer that was also stabbed seven times in this same neighborhood in the Bronx just last week.

They were completely silent.

They were two criminals that, by the way, All three of these criminals, Oscar, this individual, plus the two that stabbed the NYPD officer, all from the Dominican Republic, all had extensive criminal records, all should have been deported, all of them we had detainers on, and asked them to be sent over to us instead of released back on the streets.

And when an NYPD officer got stabbed, no one did a press conference, no one was outside protesting, no one said a word.

And then when Oscar, an individual that had evaded us last month, Has an extensive criminal background.

Are they cooperating? What more do we know?

What's the policy? Will we see body cam or other footage that may be available?

Well, first of all, Shannon, let me back up on this one.

The governor, the mayor, all these career sanctuary politicians, not one of them said anything when their own, the NYPD officer that was also stabbed seven times in this same neighborhood in the Bronx just last week.

They were completely silent.

They were two criminals that, by the way, All three of these criminals, Oscar, this individual, plus the two that stabbed the NYPD officer, all from the Dominican Republic, all had extensive criminal records, all should have been deported, all of them we had detainers on, and asked them to be sent over to us instead of released back on the streets.

And when an NYPD officer got stabbed, no one did a press conference, no one was outside protesting, no one said a word.

And then when Oscar, an individual that had evaded us last month, Has an extensive criminal background.

Are they cooperating? What more do we know?

I guess the question I have is, do you see how for anyone, a bunch of men not clearly identified as with the government, as with ICE, banging on windows with a gun, might cause anyone to flee? And I wonder, would it not be safer for the officers if they were clearly identified as with ICE?

Well, Jake, what you're not understanding is the full ex- uh, gravity of the situation.

The- Oscar had already fled once before just a month ago.

He knew, uh, that officers were looking for him.

He understood that he was a wanted man.

I mean, think about the guy's record.

I'll read it here to you.

Tactically, should DHS institute practices where officers are suggest- it's suggested that they wait for someone to get out of the car before going after them so that the car cannot be weaponized?

What is needed?

Well, we're in touch with all the governors that are affected and might be affected by the continuing storm moving across the nation.

The president has been very involved in this from the get-go.

Cam Hamilton, who is our director of FEMA, we started pre-positioning assets into every state and working closely with their emergency responders.

Right now, from the conversation I've had with each governor, they're in good shape.

We have good partnership there.

What's interesting about this area is why they may not have been hit with storms real bad the last two years, they work really, really good together.

But just to clarify events, when are you going to release the body cameras worn by those officers?

What are you able to share with us about the threat landscape right now?

Well, that's the first thing, Dana, that we looked into.

Once we start unpacking everything that took place on the airline incident, what we start saying is, okay, who is this person? What is their connections? And we start working with our intelligent communities all around the country and then also all around the world with our allies.

This is what Department of Homeland Security does every day, right? We are there to protect our skies.

We're there to protect our cybersecurity.

WE HAVE TO GET THE INFORMATION.

THERE WAS NO CREDIBLE THREAT THAT SAID THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

So we're talking about suspected terrorists and the UK government let them out on bail.

We're

actually going to one of the flights in Louisiana.

Actually, there's three flights leaving.

That's going to the third nation.

Here's the issue that we run into.

And I'll just use Mexico, for example.

In Mexico, when we have a Mexican citizen that comes in across the border, we deport them to Mexico City.

And we have it in New York, by the way.

Right.

They're self-deporting because we apprehended them.

Over 90% of them are individuals that we apprehended.

When they went to the detention center, they had an iPad like what you're holding, and there's a button on the top of it you can push and say, I'm going to self-deport rather than going through court, and we'll give you a $3,000 check and a plane ticket and send you back home.

When they do that, they also are eligible to come in the country legally the right way.

If we deport you and we have to go through the court system, you're ineligible for 10 years.

So that's why you see the self-deportation, but it's actually assisted.

Wow.

Oh, that's great to hear.

I want to put you on offense.

So with this right- for this smuggling route, once we identify the smuggling route, I'm not just gonna wait until you get in our shores anymore.

Now because of President Trump's relationship with the w- leaders around the world that, that are excited that President Trump is combating i- i- illegal activity, not just in the United States, but now he's going forward, too, and saying, "We're gonna combat it in your country," which is why so many world leaders want to partner with us now.

We're able to go back to where it's originating from and cut out the, the criminal activity there.

So now we're just...

We're going to where the head of the snake is-

Yeah.

We're

actually going to one of the flights in Louisiana.

Actually, there's three flights leaving that's going to the third nation.

Here's the issue that we run into.

And I'll just use Mexico, for example.

In Mexico, when we have a Mexican citizen that comes in across the border, we deport them to Mexico City.

Three days later, they're back on our border again.

And we have it in New York, by the way.

We're

actually going to one of the flights in Louisiana.

Actually, there's three flights leaving.

That's going to the third nation.

Here's the issue that we run into.

And I'll just use Mexico, for example.

In Mexico, when we have a Mexican citizen that comes in across the border, we deport them to Mexico City.

And we have it in New York, by the way.

Can you talk a bit more about that challenge and how you're overcoming

it? Eric, the frustrating thing, when you have sanctuary cities, it's not just they're protecting the legals.

They're harboring criminal activity.

That's where we see the worst criminal activities happen, and it's not just confined to that city.

What they do is they push out into other communities and push out to other states.

And then they find safe haven back in the sanctuary cities or sanctuary states.

And that's where we're chasing these organized crime, these cartels, these drug dealers, these child traffickers.

think you're right.

He's also trying to save college football.

I know it has nothing to do with the position I'm in, but when I was in the Senate, I worked on this very extensively, too, with Coach Myers and all the other coaches, trying to resolve it.

Because I have four kids, or three kids that... that are wrestling currently in college, two at Oklahoma State, one at OU.

And then my daughter will be committing to Iowa to wrestle at Iowa probably in the next week or two.

Wow.

And she just had her official visit, and I'm probably getting ahead of myself because she told her mom and I that she's going to commit.

But the problem that you have even on those dealing with the coaches is that, and this is interesting because kids are there to learn.

Why is that the case?

So do you, on those last two, where do you think the focus should be? Because what she is saying, and she's using numbers that come from your department, that the focus is way too much on non-criminals.

Well, you've got to understand, what is our statute? Our statute for us is to enforce immigration policies.

Every single person that chose to step over our northern or southern border and cut the line of our true immigration policy, they chose to break our nation's laws.

Regardless if it was 20 years ago, 30 years ago, or four years ago, you still chose to break the law.

Now, when we go out and we serve an administrative warrant or judicial warrant, When we go out there and serve that warrant on the individual, that individual very seldom, in fact, ever is actually by themselves.

You never see them living in a house by themselves.

You never see them driving by themselves.

Do Americans need to show proof of citizenship now?

A quarter of a century later, what is the top threat to the homeland?

It's still terrorists, but the terrorists have joined with the cartels.

President Trump, underneath his leadership, he recognized the threat.

He recognized that the cartels are threatening our homeland.

Keep in mind, because of the fentanyl overdose, we've lost more people in a year than we have during the entire Vietnam War.

So the president rightfully so designated these these these cartels as terrorist organizations.

Plus, we had those sleeper cells with inside the United States since President Trump has been in office and we went after the bad actors that the Biden administration has allowed into the United States.

How worried are you about these cyber attacks and which other actors are actively trying to hack critical infrastructure here?

I want to get your reaction to those people that keep saying, abolish a division of your...

Our agencies, right.

Yeah, and so if you start looking at our department, we have 22 components that work under the Department of Homeland Security, and we actually, throughout all departments...

AVERAGE JUST OVER 2600 ARRESTS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST FOCUS ON ICE, BUT WE HAVE THE COAST GUARD THAT MAKES ARRESTS.

WE HAVE CBP THAT MAKES ARRESTS.

AND WE HAVE SPS, WHICH IS OUR FEDERAL PROTECTION SERVICE THAT MAKES ARRESTS.

Secretary.

Wow

... or the Coast Guard.

Remember, the Coast Guard's out there every single day, too.

Well, the Coast Guard has seen more encounters than we've ever had in the Coast Guard's 236 years of existence of apprehension of drugs and illegal crossings, uh, not just on our southern border, not just in the Gulf of America, uh, but in the Pacific and in the Atlantic.

And then without the Coast Guard, we'd...

That would be another open area.

That goes to that part of allowing us to flex, and the...

Um, what do you want the American people to know about our Coast Guard?

Your thoughts about some of those exchanges that you were forced to endure into trying to explain what's happening with immigration.

Well, unfortunately, the Democrats, they wanna ignore the four years of the Biden administration.

And, and the thing that gets, I think, most people's blood boiling, especially mine as a father of six, is when you start talking about these kids, you said the phony sponsors.

Some of these sponsors were picking, had picked up 18 to 20 kids.

When we go to find them on the addresses they supposedly had, they're not there.

We've, we've r- uh, I mean, I say we, HSI and DHS working as a co- as together, has located 147,000 of these kids.

147,000.

What have you, what's different now?

What's different now?

Well, first of all, we have a c- we have an agreement with Canada and Mexico called the first country.

So Canada and Mexico are considered safe countries.

So they can't claim technically asylum coming in from Mexico and coming in from Canada unless they're claiming it against Canada and Mexico.

So asylum cases are very difficult if you process it by the law which Congress passed.

But what we're doing on these asylum cases is we're clearing the books, what we call clearing the books.

We're working together closely with the White House.

Is that guaranteed before you send 'em back?

How, how many are, can we just immediately get out, and what is the process that DHS is now engaged in to identify, locate, and remove?

So there is, um, there's two groups.

There's a group that came in after the earthquake, um, years ago, and then there's a group that came in underneath the Biden administration.

The Biden administration, there i- there is very li- little legal status that you can even pursue at this tw- this point because it, it's, it, that's, um, that was part of the whole TPS, uh, lawsuit to begin with.

The ones that came in prior, or, or after the, the, um, earthquake years ago, there is a, a, um, a, there, there's a challenge that could possibly be made, like I said, if your status had changed by being married.

But i- if you haven't changed your status, there is no percentage that can stay.

If you were just here for TPS and you don't meet the special circumstances, you have no path forward.

How many per day are we talking about at this new escalated pace, and how high do you think it can go? Is there, is there a goal maybe for next year that can even exceed what we've done this year?

How, how many are... can we just immediately get out, and what is the process that DHS is now engaged in to identify, locate, and remove?

So there is, um...

There's two groups.

There's a group that came in after the earthquake, um, years ago, and then there's a group that came in underneath the Biden administration.

The Biden administration, there i- there is very li- little legal status that you can even pursue at this tw- this point because it, it's, it, that's, um...

That was part of the whole TPS, uh, lawsuit to begin with.

The ones that came in prior or, or after the, the, um, earthquake years ago, there is a, uh, um, a, there, there's a challenge that could possibly be made, like I said, if your status had changed by being married.

How many per day are we talking about at this new escalated pace, and how high do you think it can go? Is there, is there a goal maybe for next year that can even exceed what we've done this year?