So in terms of how you see the music scene today, what kind of things do you feel like are missing and what kind of things do you feel like are seeds for the same kind of thing to happen again?

Well, what it needs, in order for it to happen, it needs that community support, but not only community support, but venue support.

There's not a lot of...

There's not one concentrated area as much as it was when we started that had all those bars, five, six... bars on the same street that yeah you know so that would be nice to have that um and you know there's and and since we started it wasn't that long ago really in the scope of things um when we started there weren't as many um options for people's time and money and and so that's that's a challenge

It's a little bit different now, but...

Yeah, we got in on the tail end before streaming, before...

the record companies are owned by one or two.

There were so many different subsidiaries and different record labels, but then they all conglomerated in the late 90s, early 2000s.