
Mark Wasserman
Corporate lawyer; CEO Emeritus of Eversheds Sutherland who led its 2017 transatlantic merger, serving as US Managing Partner (2005–2025) and Global Co-CEO (2017–2025).
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Nov 2, 2026
What are the lessons from the unravelling of Weil Gotshal?
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10:01Mike AbbottHOST
How much does uncertainty at the top shake confidence? Are there things that a firm should be doing well in advance of any kind of leadership changes to prepare for succession?

Mark WassermanGUEST
And again, I'll qualify this again by saying I'm not casting any aspersions on the people in this case because I don't know the particular facts.

Mark WassermanGUEST
But yeah, I think, look, it's one of the most fraught times I would tell you in any law firm's history.

Mark WassermanGUEST
And we just went through it ourselves after I served as... managed partner CEO for 20 years and successfully over almost a two-year period handed over to Lino Mendiola, who's doing an amazing job.

Mark WassermanGUEST
But it is super hard, not because, and put aside the people involved, there is a strategic question.

Mark WassermanGUEST
And I think this has come up in a number of things that we've heard about while about strategic differences in where a potential future leader wanted to take the firm and where some other partners wanted to take the firm.
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19:51Mike AbbottHOST
But if you were back in a law firm today, and it's not the Weill Gottschall situation, but you're watching it play out, what are you doing? What are you saying to the staff?
What are the lessons from the unravelling of Weil Gotshal?
10:16
10:25
10:30
10:42
10:49
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10:01Mike AbbottHOST
How much does uncertainty at the top shake confidence? Are there things that a firm should be doing well in advance of any kind of leadership changes to prepare for succession?

Mark WassermanGUEST
And again, I'll qualify this again by saying I'm not casting any aspersions on the people in this case because I don't know the particular facts.

Mark WassermanGUEST
But yeah, I think, look, it's one of the most fraught times I would tell you in any law firm's history.

Mark WassermanGUEST
And we just went through it ourselves after I served as... managed partner CEO for 20 years and successfully over almost a two-year period handed over to Lino Mendiola, who's doing an amazing job.

Mark WassermanGUEST
But it is super hard, not because, and put aside the people involved, there is a strategic question.

Mark WassermanGUEST
And I think this has come up in a number of things that we've heard about while about strategic differences in where a potential future leader wanted to take the firm and where some other partners wanted to take the firm.
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19:51Mike AbbottHOST
But if you were back in a law firm today, and it's not the Weill Gottschall situation, but you're watching it play out, what are you doing? What are you saying to the staff?
EP #83: There's No Way We'll Do That: Mark Wasserman on the Transatlantic Merger That Built Eversheds Sutherland
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Chris BatzHOST
I think you've spoken on or had interest in the human side of AI, but yeah, I would love to hear what your thoughts are.

Mark WassermanGUEST
I'm an optimist by nature, and I think there will be a ton of amazing uses of it.
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Chris BatzHOST
I'm curious, the genesis, what's your honest take on what it proved and maybe what it didn't prove? How does that relate with the firm today to your clients, that sort of thing? Can you update us on that?
Episode 15588: PLANK SHOW HOUR 1 FOR 3-6-26 PLANK CELEBRATES 1 YEAR AT THE MUSTANG CHICK FIL A
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Mark WassermanGUEST
Yeah, so Chick-fil-A has worked with some of the – brick and mortar universities and given us as operators the opportunity to buy into it.

Mark WassermanGUEST
And as many as my employees, team members that want to go to college can go to college.

Mark WassermanGUEST
And to me, the coolest thing right now is I've got five high school seniors.
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44:31Chris PlankHOST
do they view, I guess, to determine, all right, that was a success, we're going to continue it, or, hey, that didn't necessarily do what we wanted it to do, so we're going to maybe not do it in the future?