Come on there.

That's my mom's side of the family.

They give you their little homemade wine, which was awful.

So I think that was intentional.

So we wouldn't drink.

But yeah, you get your little shot of espresso.

So, you know, I've always been a huge coffee fan.

I just have to ask, what's next? What's next for you? What's next for the company? What's on the horizon?

Did you change up the rollers or anything there? Move corners? What do we changed?

So we really haven't changed much.

Um, I don't know if you guys remember last time you were up there, our our connex box tunnel was in pretty bad shape.

So that was like one of our major undertakings was digging that thing

Yeah, so that's when recruiting really gets heavy.

Yep.

Yep.

So she, I mean, she's constantly like daily emailing back and forth with these coaches and she's going to a handful of camps and a ton of big exposure tournaments this year and Yeah, my son hit me

Did you catch up with yesterday's action?

Oh, absolutely.

What a standout.

Great, great confidence in the beef industry.

I mean, good on Dean McCardie and the team at Tangihau.

Um, they sold the top one last year, and now they've, they've upped the mark.

And I think the agent said, "I've just, I've just taken your record off you, Dean, by taking the last bid." Um, what a b- you know, that T- Tomate, Tomato, however you pronounce it, I always look over the fence when I go down through the, through Marlborough and admire their cattle.

You and Tim Dean from Norsware and a few other Influential people, namely Bridget Kirk, who's the other half of the NZR president, David Kirk, have been encouraging the All Blacks to wear woolen beanies rather than acrylic ones or synthetic ones.

When did he lose his mother or did his mother outlive him? Oh, no, she she

died early.

Billy was 14 when she died.

She had tuberculosis.

And at that point.

Catherine had married a man named William Antrim.

He was kind of like a UPS driver.

So why don't you talk a little bit about his death and those rumors that ended up probably inevitably when you look at his life, his death was also going to have a lot of myth involved with it.