Mark says Rick gasped.

Yeah, he was like, "Oh my God.

Like, the cops, what? The cops are fucking, got me down as the, as a suspect? They want to talk to me about it?" You know, and, I mean, he didn't...

It just, he just, Rick has a way of, like, just kind of, like, looking through you and sometimes, and he kind of, like, got the information from me, and then he was off in his own mind, like, trying to figure out what he's going to do about it.

He freaked out and started grabbing for his phone, like, "I got to call Steve right now."

Mark told us Rick had a lifelong strategy for getting out of trouble, one he taught all the Monte Nido boys.

He just told us, like, "You don't ever admit guilt.

No matter what you do, just stick to your story, even if you're guilty, and there's always gonna be one juror that'll believe you." He said, "Just, just never admit to anything." And, uh, I don't know, guess it worked out for him.