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Mark Wagner

Mark Wagner

President of Club Car

Aug 26, 2026

14:07
Uh, so point number two is about that, selecting artifacts from the pile.
14:12
It's a little bit complicated how I got involved with my work at Ground Zero.
14:17
How I or why I was the one doing it is maybe the, the, the q- the question.
14:23
In the days after September 11th, or actually I'll, I'll back up for a second and say, you know, prior to the attacks on September 11th, I was, as I am today, uh, an architect.
14:34
I was at the time redesigning.
14:37
I was a private sector consultant, and one of my clients was the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, who own the World Trade Center, right? They had their main offices in the North Tower of, of the center.
14:50
The, the Trade Center was seven buildings, the two famous twin towers.

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27:15
... were just, you know, in a museum today, you can find bittersweet things like you can find keyboards [chuckles] once the dirt got picked up, and teddy bears and all kinds of things that are incredibly, incredibly bittersweet.
42:07
What are some of those skill sets and mindsets?
42:09
I have four that I like to go to because they come up a lot when you talk to astronauts.
42:14
You know, they're critical for the way NASA works or SpaceX works.
42:17
The sort of mindsets that are good for, say, an astronaut or an engineer or a scientist turn out to also be good for, say, an entrepreneur or a social change agent trying to solve big problems here on Earth.
42:29
So I start with the explorer's mindset, things like... comfort with the unknown, right? The idea that if you encounter an obstacle out there, you might not know the way around it, but you have a degree of faith that you can find the way around it.
42:45
And there's a sense of an abundance mindset kind of wrapped into that also, that there are solutions for all of us out there.
42:51
And it kind of Also tends to tap into that idea that the people who are explorers tend to develop a greater sense of stewardship for the environment and for the Earth.
47:14
How does the AI revolution intersect with what's going on with space?
0:17
He helps athletes develop the intelligence, discipline, and confidence to reach their full potential by mastering the strategy and mindset behind the game.
0:25
Read The Game is about understanding why you do what you do.
0:28
Oftentimes the players, even professional ones that I've seen, they don't really understand why they do what they do.
0:34
So I want them to understand this is what you do, let's work on getting better at it, let's make sure you understand when it works, why it doesn't work, and what do you do if it isn't working.

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9:01
Yeah.
9:02
Um, what you never hear is why.
9:05
And again, that's the core of my philosophy is when you do this, this will work.
9:10
And they might explain a little bit behind it, but essentially the kid is just mimicking a skill, and that's basically like think about school when the teacher stands up and they write out a math equation on the board.
8:52
You talk about the skill sets and the mindsets that students need for the space economy.
8:58
It te- the se- the sort of, uh, mindsets that are good for, say, an astronaut or an engineer or a scientist turn out to also be good for, say, an entrepreneur or a social change agent trying to solve, uh, big problems here on Earth.
9:11
So I start with the explorer's mindset.
9:13
You're talking about things like, uh, uh, comfort with the unknown.
9:18
It kind of also tends to tap into that idea that, that people who are explorers tend to develop a, a greater sense of stewardship, uh, for the environment and for the Earth.
9:30
I like to bring in m-moonshot thinking.
9:32
That's the idea that, you, you know, when we went to the moon the first time in the sixties, we didn't know how we were gonna do it, uh, when Kennedy said we're gonna do that in this decade.
10:48
Where do you think that schools are falling short out of those four the most?

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