[laughs]

... uh, go off and have an affair, you know? So he was very understanding, and I think more men, modern men are now becoming more understanding in the modern world, but we need more men to understand exactly that.

And in that book, it's gone from 95 pages to over 300, 17 chapters.

But at the beginning of the book, there's parts where you think, "Right, I'm having this issue with my partner.

Can I tune straight into that one?" You can go straight to page 80-

Yeah.

It's putting, I think, in the HR manual, um, maybe when you start work, it's part of your pack.

You read it, put it down, but there's nothing on a regular basis that talks about menopause in the workplace, and I think that's another, um, sticking point because I remember doing a radio show and a woman actually on TikTok Live messaged in and said, "What Mark's talking about now I've actually experienced in work."