It made my Martin sound too bright and too tinny sounding, but the PEI made it warmer and deeper, and that's just what I preferred, so...

Another thing about the particular picks and the materials is the thickness.

And a lot of the mandolin players that I've come in contact with, they like a heavier pick.

Whereas Josh uses a 1.2 millimeter, which is his go-to pick.

And the tour line material, a lot of the mandolin players that I sell to will – gravitate toward probably a 1.5, 1.7, 1.8. You know, I've got some folks that are – but I try to accommodate with thicknesses and shapes.

I get all kinds of requests for different types of shapes, and I try to accommodate those as best I can.

And most of the time I get it pretty close.

It does still have a little bit of give and I can, I can kind of feel through it if that makes sense.