Like a revolving door, yeah.

The next key will be coming in.

And he kept saying, "Well, what, what key is this one?" I said, "Cookie, all you gotta do is play the bass." I said, "I gotta take two guitar breaks.

Joe's gotta play this.

Paul's gotta play that.

We gotta sing this.

You're all right, man.

player.He's another one of your heroes, Jerry Reed

Um, why do you think it's important to be able to kinda synthesize your influences and, and come up with a voice of your own?

I don't know that I ever did anything that original or a voice of my own, but I think it's only natural for you to be influenced by the things that you're really impressed with and that you've come to admire.

Uh, some of the chords and things that I learned from listening to Travis, which he made up his own chords, uh, became just part of my way of approaching things.

Uh, and I've, I've heard Sonny Osborne say that when he started expanding past Earl's music, that he was listening to saxophones and steel guitars and everything else, so I think it's only natural for you to, if you really love an instrument.

I love guitar.

I love all kinds of guitar.

My wife makes fun of me all the time looking at my record collection.

And tell us, tell us about that, that first gig of the band that would become The Traditional Grass.