Okay.

And we're introducing concepts that large companies have been using for years that's been available to small businesses all along.

One of those concepts, like with health care, some of the large companies have been using direct-to-provider.

In other words, instead of having an insurance company between...

they contract directly with the doctor or the hospital and they take care of that that's how rich

Do you have, is the symposium going to, is it like a big around the table? Everybody's going to talk to you? Speakers? How's it going to

work? There'll be three of us on a panel.

Okay.