Mm-hmm

... and what we need to do is we need to, to, to, to actually help us, we need to, we need to make sure that people have a better understanding of, of, of what rural life is like.

And it's not all about farming, it's not all about tourism.

Actually, it's a lot about people doing ordinary jobs in ordinary places, li- living ordinary lives, but actually in locations where the government has left behind, and locations where we don't have the same sort of levels of infrastructure, where we haven't had the same spending put into them as you might have seen in the metropolitan areas.

And this, you know, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're brought, we're, we're, uh, recording this, um, with a new government just in place, a new government that says a lot about devolution, said a lot about, and is a, a government run by someone who was a metropolitan mayor.

Well, actually now it's time I think also that we start to think about how we see proper powers given to local areas in rural areas as well as in metropolitan as well.

Sorry, I covered a fair bit there to start off the program, but, but nonetheless, I think there's a lot to cover.

Yeah.