What, what first sparked your interest in this, in this issue, which you've been working on for decades?

Maybe at its, at its core, a fundamental belief that this is what creates free and safe societies that progress.

So each one of those important, right? I believe deeply in opportunity.

I believe in the power that it creates.

I'm a capitalist.

Um, but the, the, the way we get from here to there is by making sure that our talent is whatever that means.

It doesn't mean, you know, uh, just guys working in finance.

So you're an AI optimist.