And he said it was fascinating at the Javits Center in New York where all these climate zealots are looking for money there will will will subjugate for food because all the money has left for ai because china's invested in getting us to ruin ai and flock cameras and that stuff

oh yes remember joe i said this works oh absolutely this is a very effective campaign against ai now Here's where they have, I guess you'd say, tailwinds at their back, the anti-AI, and here's why.

And these are very important reasons.

Number one is just general, not in my backyard.

You could get the most pro-coal, the most pro-fossil fuel, the most pro-solar or wind, no matter what form of energy, no matter what ideological side.

and you start bringing it in your local community you bring it that it affects your backyard or your line of sight yeah the famous one was the kennedy family and matt um what's on uh what's the hyannis Yeah, they didn't want offshore wind after voting and campaigning for solar and wind, all that.

So not in my backyard is incredibly bipartisan.

So the two things I was hoping you could break down a little bit is... sort of experts or people that don't go along with this, what do they say about either global warming and this idea of CO2? Can you tackle those two bits for people and sort of what counters that narrative from actual scientists?

Yes.

I mean, first of all, the whole environmental movement, if you go back to the modern environment, starting back in the 1960s, started to become fear-based, whether it was DDT, overpopulation, man-made global cooling in the 70s.

Then you had acid rain.

Then you had the Amazon rainforest and the rainforest scare, you know, 30 football fields a minute disappearing, all the species extinction scares.

By the time the early 2000s come along, they decide we're going all in on climate change.

And literally every other environmental issue wiped away.

So the two things I was hoping you could break down a little bit is... sort of experts or people that don't go along with this, what do they say about either global warming and this idea of CO2? Can you tackle those two bits for people and sort of what counters that narrative from actual scientists?

Does that make this replacement for climate change more dire? Because it seems to have found a way to tap into Republicans and Democrats to go after AI and data centers and that kind of thing?

Oh, yes.

Remember, Joe, I said this works.

Oh, absolutely.

This is a very effective campaign against AI.

Now...

Here's where they have, I guess you'd say, tailwinds at their back, the anti-AI.

no.

all right i'm gonna let you respond to him there mark

Well, I mean, he's talking about Trump dismantling the climate agenda in part.

And what Donald Trump is doing, by the way, give Donald Trump full credit for this.

Unlike Trump 1.0, he is actually coming in and he's withdrawn us from the 1992 Rio Earth Summit climate treaty that started us on the whole sustainable development, annual climate summits, UN Paris Agreement, all the net zero, the international carbon neutral craze.

pulling us out of that, which legal scholars say makes it harder to get us back in.

And he's also getting rid of this endangerment finding, which regulates carbon dioxide, what humans exhale from our mouth, as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act, despite the fact it was never intended for, written about, or legally applied to the Clean Air Act.

So Gavin Newsom is bitter and angry that Biden and Obama's climate legacies are being permanently, I shouldn't say, as close to permanently dismantled as you can possibly get.

So how do we have no hurricanes yet?

Thank you.

It's kind of like Al Pacino in that old movie.

Just when you think they're out, they pull you back in.

What's happening here, and I'll get to heat waves in a second.

There's been, over the summer, a whole new just insanity has taken hold.

They're reviving the climate scan.

They've been pummeled by Donald Trump for a year and a half, 300 actions, pulling us out of the U.N. agreements, pulling us out of funding all the U.N. nonsense, the Green Climate Fund, the Overpopulation Fund, canceling the Green New Deal.

Am I right?

But There are so many people that subscribe to this entire fallacy of lies, and this is at the tip of the iceberg.

This is only the tip of the iceberg.

We're talking about a few billion dollars here.

What's the big deal in the end? Millions to billions over the years here.

What happened was this whole UN process was started in 1988, and the idea of this entire UN climate process was to set out to find how CO2 is destroying the earth, carbon dioxide, our human breath, we exhale carbon dioxide.

And they ended up turning themselves into a self-sustaining lobbying organization for climate extremism.

because if they fail to find CO2 is driving a climate catastrophe, then they fail to put themselves in charge of the solution.

Where's your website? Where can people learn more?

This pretty much ranks to the top, that if we don't have open borders, it will destroy the planet.

Yes, what's happening here is a UK human rights group, as amplified by the UK Guardian newspaper in a breathless article, has revealed that ICE deportations, the immigration deportation flights conducted by the Trump administration, are quote, accelerating the climate crisis, unquote.

And they talked about, they did an analysis and they had fancy charts showing the Biden administration versus Trump and the emissions of the airplane, the CO2 emissions of these deportation flights.

And they've gone up, the CO2 emissions have gone up 88% between 2024 and 25.

The first thing that would come to your mind is not the climate crisis, is that Wow, we actually are enforcing our immigration laws.

That should be the first thing that the flights have increased by 88%.

But the most important thing is they're claiming that that rise in CO2 emissions is causing a climate crisis and that we need to stop all deportations in order to solve climate change.

Do you see the climate moving, climate pun intended, moving in that direction?

Happy to be here.

Yes, it was in a scientific journal in Europe, and they're dealing with representation concentration pathway 8.5.

So I'm going to give you a very technical, we're going to spend 10 minutes, I'm going to go through all, no.

This was basically the United Nations admitting that their extreme climate predictions slash models were, quote, implausible, and they're going to abandon them after 15 years of this nonsense.

Now, It's important to understand what this was.

This whole idea of extreme climate prediction at this 8.5 extreme climate model scenario, which was not based on reality.

It was based on using more coal and burning more carbon dioxide than is known to exist in the coal that's known to exist in the geological world right now.

In about 20 seconds, if you can for me, literally 20 seconds, Mark, respond to what he's saying there.

It probably will.

Yes.

I mean, this is a part of what the EU has been trying.

This is part of the 15 minute cities.

This is part of the great reset.

You'll owe nothing and be happy.

This is part of their whole net zero agenda.

Tell me the situation with this solar plant.

Good morning.

Thank you.

He actually also talked about the disastrously melting Arctic ice caps.

So he was lecturing President Trump.

Now, King Charles has a huge long history of this.

First of all, he was very subdued considering his past.

In the past, King Charles has warned of a 100-month climate tipping point.

The good news is I only have 30 seconds for you to answer.

Mm-hmm.

And you probably have the, you know, you could probably show the video clips of it, but he, some of his tipping point rhetoric was laughable and comical, where he started with 100-month tipping point, and then he counted down to 89 months, and then, like, 70-some months, and then he got right down to zero.

And once he hit zero, he then he added 35 more years to the climate tipping point.

And I always like to say, you know, he would've been, I think it is, by the time 20, uh, I think it was 2047, he could theoretically be alive given his longevity gene.

But it w- the irony of all this is he waited all those decades to be king.

He's becomes king, and then he immediately gets a cancer scare.

I'm not, I haven't kept up.

I just feel like, I mean, I don't wanna declare vi- victory 'cause I don't wanna be complacent, but I feel like the climate alarmists have had a terrible few years.

Mark, how close are we to being energy independent again in America like we were under the first Trump administration, or are we there?

Well, I think we just arrived.

Just last week, and this is incredible, CNN analysis found that the US is now producing, quote, more oil than any country in the history of the planet, unquote.

And that is after one year of 300 actions by President Donald Trump to open up American energy.

Now, having said that, people are probably scratching their heads and saying, well, if we're producing more oil, why are gas prices so high? It's because it's not necessarily all the right kind of oil that we can refine.

So we export oil and then we import oil that's easier to refine, that meets our refining capacity.

Oil is a global commodity, that's the way it's set up.

And in some respects, the mainstream media's negativity using the straights as, oh, it's just an absolute disaster, almost plays to the psyche to drive the price of oil up in the trading markets.

So what does a sustained disruption actually look like here? I mean, could we be talking one hundred and fifty dollars a barrel for oil worse? What's going to happen, Mark?

Well, first of all, we have a recent guide for what's going to happen because we saw what happened when Ukraine, the Russia invaded Ukraine and the U.S. got involved in that.

Gas prices immediately went up and the oil prices shot up.

And there was a lot of fear of $10 a gallon gas prices.

So we first of all, we have to dismiss all of that.

This is going to be it's a major market disruption, but you don't always go to worst case scenario.

And the reason we don't and the reason we're in better shape than when the Ukraine war started And even that, despite the fact that that didn't even affect the Middle East, we're in much better shape now because I'll use a CNN analysis.

Are we experiencing, was the left right?

There's not a lot of people talking about this, Mark.

Yeah, what's happened here is very simple.

And I worked at the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

I saw firsthand the transfer when Obama was in power, when Obama was elected and became president, the shifting of infrastructure, public works to climate focused.

The whole Biden Inflation Reduction Act was the largest infrastructure bill.

No, it wasn't.

If unless you consider offshore wind and solar panels and EV mandates and carbon capture infrastructure, that it wasn't.

But Mark, last word.

Well, thank you,

Grant.

This is so monumental.

I know it sounds to a lot of people like it's just some bureaucratic regulation at the EPA.

How is it going to affect my life? I mean, they're already estimating that new car costs could drop $2,500, $2,400 is the exact estimate.

And you mentioned the auto stop start.

That's a significant thing.

Mark, this CO2 endangerment that you talked about, can you explain in layman's terms why this is important and this will really make a big difference? Yes, this was the

Well, I guess I'll ask you, Mark Morano, are they obvious?

No, they're not obvious at all.

In fact, Howard Lutnick, Trump's Commerce Secretary, gave a devastating speech here.

Basically, why did the West concede all of our energy to China and the developing world? Europe doesn't even make its own batteries.

They made themselves a slave to China with all of these net zero UN climate commitments.

Al Gore, by saying we're going to be supporting the fossil fuel lobby, has nothing to do with that when you're talking about baseload electricity, cheap energy for Americans, solar and wind, there's no there there.

No matter how many subsidies they weren't even at, they were less than 15% of our electrical grid, less than 5% of our total energy.

Watch this.

How is this America first?

This is true.

It is phenomenally America first.

As George Costanza said on Seinfeld, I'm out, baby, I'm out.

We're out.

We are the first nation to pull out of this.

And just to give you.

It seems like a common sense dial can be turned and Republicans can take over the environmental movement with something that's a lot more popular than climate fear.

At least I hope you will be.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

You know, I think most people, pre-COVID, and I credit COVID lockdowns and the mandates and the vaccine mandates and the stay-at-home orders, all that, with this rise of climate skepticism, which is the reason, you know, in the United States, CNN's reporting where lower climate skepticism More climate skepticism, same levels we had in the 1980s.

That's how people just don't care anymore.

They lost, by COVID lockdowns, the appeal to authority.

And I think the World Economic Forum was front and center, along with the World Health Organization, the idea that you can't question this, you're an anti-science denier, don't question the science.

I believe in science.

I can hardly wait to see your face.

What actually happened? How many programs were this? What does this mean to the international community that America is no longer involved?

Well, it's so many things.

And, you know, we're still trying to digest it.

But this is yesterday, as of January 7th, 66 organizations were announced that the U.S. is withdrawing from, including World Health Organization, including UN Population Fund, which is also related to climate, of course.

And just today, they added more.

They got out of the UN Climate Fund.

And you remember this scam.

I imagine it was just money flowing to them.

That's my admission.

Yeah, you just look at it as you got a tax cut when you bought that car.

So yeah, that's why they serve what human interest, that's what they were trying to do, is incentivize.

And that, to an extent, has always been done, some kind of incentivize.

But what took the EV out of the realm was when they started banning the competition.

You know, it's kind of like when Muhammad Ali is fighting for the world championship, they don't ban George Foreman from entering the ring with him.

That's what didn't make sense.

You know, we talk about it, but why actually was this a big deal? It was a very big deal

What was your takeaway from your time in Brazil with these people?

I mean, it started out as COP 30.

They clear cut eight miles of highway.

It turned into clear cut 30.

Then they had six hours without toilets and no bathrooms for world leaders.

They finally got the toilets running barely, huge lines, 45 minutes to go to the bathroom.

Then they announced you couldn't put toilet paper in there.

what caused the fire does anyone know and i imagine they weren't happy about the emissions yeah that's

All right, so the Communist Party spies that didn't throw you in handcuffs and haul you away after that?

No, not yet.

But the Chinese delegation, they have all these books laid out by Xi Jinping, and he's got a huge smile on his face.

Why does he have a smile? Because he knows that the United Nations is enriching, the climate agenda is enriching China.

He knows when Gavin Newsom flies in or Al Gore flies in that they're doing the bidding of China.

He doesn't need to come to this summit.

He's got his huge pavilion set up there when you need to greet everyone.

Clear-cut 30. you told me that the most popular restaurant i think was bob's burgers or something like that meanwhile they want us eating bugs but then is it true they they ran out of hamburgers

All right, can you explain what Bill Gates was getting to in layman's terms there?

He basically said it explicitly.

There is no climate danger.

There is no climate catastrophe.

Bill Gates single-handedly canceled the climate emergency with this new series of interviews and his posts that he did at his website.

He is literally transitioning, and he's transitioning into Donald Trump's climate view.

I mean, in a sense, he's not calling it a hoax completely, but he's basically saying, eh, we need to worry about human prosperity, human development.

so

How big an opportunity is this for the Trump White House to get rid of the rest of the money that's just not yielding any benefit to the American public?

Yeah, well, we're talking about the Inflation Reduction Act and the whole Green New Deal agenda.

I don't know.

I think estimates were 50, 60 percent.

They were able to claw back.

Now the courts stopped them from doing any more.

Well, now with this shutdown, he's already got $8 billion in climate funding to blue states, $18 billion in federal funding for New York City, another $8 billion.

Maybe we can reel it in a little.