Does this guy really know his stuff? So I'm, I'm trying to give you a chance to answer that and, and get it out there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, I think, um, a really good analogy is, um, some of the societal thoughts on what a truck driver is and who a truck driver is, too.

And I think we all have pre-perce- pre-perceived, uh, thoughts on, you know, based off of age, based off of their career choice, who a person is.

And I think right when you start talking to me, I think you're gonna...

I think people start saying, "Okay, this guy has good intentions.

This guy, uh, knows what he's talking about." And, um, you know, I've been in school for six years now of studying-

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Um, but had you been aware of, you know, the lifestyle of truckers a- and kind of the, the, the problems that that can bring up in, in people, or how did that kind of come about to you?

Yeah.

Well, I, I come at it from a, like you said, a completely different, uh, angle and perspective because I, I, I came from the healthcare side of things.

And six years ago, I actually didn't know a single person who was a truck driver.

I had driven by them on the highway, hang out, hang out at the truck stops when we're, you know, on road trips, but I was not in the industry until I was working in a physical therapy clinic, um, in St. Louis, and in walked in a, a bunch of truck drivers that I rehabbed and got to work with on a daily basis for about three, three or four months rehabbing them.

And it was honestly the first time I had ever seen what 20, 30 years behind the wheel can do to someone's health.

And it just struck me right in the heart.

Um, what does that look like? I mean, what does that look like crafting these entire programs so that the truck drivers who are supposed to be getting the message are actually getting it and taking that next step toward a, a healthier life? That, that seems like a lot.